Comments on: Slowing down http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/index.php/2009/11/slowing-down/ My thoughts on wow Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:14:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Frostshock http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/index.php/2009/11/slowing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-602 Frostshock Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:49:19 +0000 http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/?p=503#comment-602 How many glyphs do you put up on AH during a single session? 48hr auction time lets you post three times in a week. I'm wondering how many glyphs you post in order to make 3k gold in a week. thanks How many glyphs do you put up on AH during a single session?

48hr auction time lets you post three times in a week. I’m wondering how many glyphs you post in order to make 3k gold in a week.

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]]> By: Kevmar http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/index.php/2009/11/slowing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-544 Kevmar Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:14:58 +0000 http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/?p=503#comment-544 No built in way. But I make just one call to auctioneer to get the min buyout. You could prabbably go change that to one that asks for market price. Im not sure what call that is so good luck. No built in way. But I make just one call to auctioneer to get the min buyout. You could prabbably go change that to one that asks for market price. Im not sure what call that is so good luck.

]]> By: Peekay http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/index.php/2009/11/slowing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-539 Peekay Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:25:38 +0000 http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/?p=503#comment-539 Sorry if it's obvious, but is there a way to have kevtoolqueue use market price instead of min. buyout? Sorry if it’s obvious, but is there a way to have kevtoolqueue use market price instead of min. buyout?

]]> By: debussy http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/index.php/2009/11/slowing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-527 debussy Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:00:28 +0000 http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/?p=503#comment-527 I'm interested to see how the experiment goes long term. One thing I like about Auctioneer is that I can say - queue 6 of glyph X, but only 2 of Glyph Y. Other than that, I doubt that for something like glyphs Auctioneer would work very well. Glyphs are incredibly cheap to make, sometimes the cost of making a glyph is close to 0g. This makes undercutting very inviting to the competition. I'm currently doing something else -- being extremely aggressive with my undercutting. I post glyphs at 25g, but if someone undercuts me, the price immediately drops to 3g. If I get undercut at 3g I don't care, because I don't have to craft. If they leave, my glyphs go back to 25g. I am going to see how well these settings work at pushing the other guys out. Leaving Inscription would never be an option for me. I have 13000 inks and the stash is growing. Even if I do decide to leave, I'd have to dispose of all that ink, which could take a long time. Buying me out is not an option for my competition. They'll run out of bag space before I run out of glyphs. So I think that eventually I'll drive my competition out, even the well established glyph makers will go. I’m interested to see how the experiment goes long term. One thing I like about Auctioneer is that I can say – queue 6 of glyph X, but only 2 of Glyph Y.
Other than that, I doubt that for something like glyphs Auctioneer would work very well. Glyphs are incredibly cheap to make, sometimes the cost of making a glyph is close to 0g. This makes undercutting very inviting to the competition.

I’m currently doing something else — being extremely aggressive with my undercutting. I post glyphs at 25g, but if someone undercuts me, the price immediately drops to 3g. If I get undercut at 3g I don’t care, because I don’t have to craft. If they leave, my glyphs go back to 25g. I am going to see how well these settings work at pushing the other guys out.

Leaving Inscription would never be an option for me. I have 13000 inks and the stash is growing. Even if I do decide to leave, I’d have to dispose of all that ink, which could take a long time.
Buying me out is not an option for my competition. They’ll run out of bag space before I run out of glyphs. So I think that eventually I’ll drive my competition out, even the well established glyph makers will go.

]]> By: Kevmar http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/index.php/2009/11/slowing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-526 Kevmar Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:56:38 +0000 http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/?p=503#comment-526 I'm not going to call it advantage but a different style. Not only does Auctioneer ignore outliers, it limits the fluxuation of market price. With 48 hours you are looking for a price that will sell in 48 hours. Once you get glyphs to hold at a true market value, Auctineer will be able to find that value. QA allows the market to float up and down at will. This is why I see Auctioneer as a long term strat. You have to let it drive the prices down far enough that the QA players move out and allow it to move prices back up. This can take a lot of time. In theory the moving prices back up is the point where Auctioneer's market price is the better method. It keeps you in control of the market without making it tempting for competition to move in. I cannot comment on that because I never made it that far. I’m not going to call it advantage but a different style. Not only does Auctioneer ignore outliers, it limits the fluxuation of market price. With 48 hours you are looking for a price that will sell in 48 hours. Once you get glyphs to hold at a true market value, Auctineer will be able to find that value. QA allows the market to float up and down at will.

This is why I see Auctioneer as a long term strat. You have to let it drive the prices down far enough that the QA players move out and allow it to move prices back up. This can take a lot of time. In theory the moving prices back up is the point where Auctioneer’s market price is the better method. It keeps you in control of the market without making it tempting for competition to move in. I cannot comment on that because I never made it that far.

]]> By: debussy http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/index.php/2009/11/slowing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-525 debussy Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:08:20 +0000 http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/?p=503#comment-525 If you don't mind, what's the advantage of using Auctioneer to post every 48 hours instead of doing that with QA2? You'd still be doing the same, which is undercut the next person by the same amount. I know that Auctioneer ignores outliers, but as far as I know, you modified your own QA to ignore the under threshold glyphs and undercut the next profitable one. If you don’t mind, what’s the advantage of using Auctioneer to post every 48 hours
instead of doing that with QA2?
You’d still be doing the same, which is undercut the next person by the same amount.
I know that Auctioneer ignores outliers, but as far as I know, you modified your own QA to
ignore the under threshold glyphs and undercut the next profitable one.

]]> By: Kevmar http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/index.php/2009/11/slowing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-524 Kevmar Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:46:36 +0000 http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/?p=503#comment-524 I did shift all my time to other things. All of it was just as productive as playing wow though. And I still make more than acceptable amounts of gold. It does not take much gold to cover raiding 2 or 3 nights a week. My issue with markets shifting is a minor one. When a price is stable for so long I just know the value of everything related to it. I also know at what price to instantly buy at. When things shift I have to go back to the math behind them and decide is this a new market price or just a short term thing. It also changes the profit I can make on things I stocked up on. I just have to think a little more about things before using my gut feelings. I did shift all my time to other things. All of it was just as productive as playing wow though. And I still make more than acceptable amounts of gold. It does not take much gold to cover raiding 2 or 3 nights a week.

My issue with markets shifting is a minor one. When a price is stable for so long I just know the value of everything related to it. I also know at what price to instantly buy at. When things shift I have to go back to the math behind them and decide is this a new market price or just a short term thing. It also changes the profit I can make on things I stocked up on. I just have to think a little more about things before using my gut feelings.

]]> By: Xaxziminrax the Second http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/index.php/2009/11/slowing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-523 Xaxziminrax the Second Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:26:55 +0000 http://www.ithinkincode.com/warcraft/?p=503#comment-523 Are you really so disappointed that markets are shifting without you, though? All the free time you've gained can surely be better spent in RL than in WoW. So isn't it worth it to let the markets adjust on their own while you still make acceptable gold in WoW and have acceptable time in RL? Are you really so disappointed that markets are shifting without you, though? All the free time you’ve gained can surely be better spent in RL than in WoW. So isn’t it worth it to let the markets adjust on their own while you still make acceptable gold in WoW and have acceptable time in RL?

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